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$4 billion transmission line to drop into Lake Champlain
By Zachary Matson
The large boats will prowl Lake Champlain all day and all night for five months.
Barges up to 300 feet long and 90 feet across will carry 12 miles of spooled electrical cable, navigation equipment, a tall crane and a specialized crew. They will drop the cable 4 feet deep in their wake and cover 2 miles a day. The underwater installation will stir up sediment, displace bottom-dwelling creatures and alter the lake’s ecology.
Then the boats will be gone.
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“I call it a one-time disturbance,” said Tim Mihuc, a professor of environmental science at SUNY Plattsburgh.
The extraordinary activity will leave behind a hidden thread of power delivering a near-constant flow of energy from manmade reservoirs in Quebec and Labrador to Queens, effectively an Adirondack Park-sized battery projected to provide about one-fifth of New York City’s massive electricity needs in the coming decades. Construction may start in a few months and the cable could be laid in 2024 as part of a major transmission line called the Champlain Hudson Power Express.
Financed by one of the world’s richest private equity firms, The Blackstone Group, the CHPE is championed by its supporters as essential to unwind New York’s reliance on carbon-spewing fossil fuel and meet a 2040 target of emissions-free electricity. The project’s opponents denounce it as a green-in-name-only risk built on a legacy of mistreatment of Indigenous peoples and continuing ecological harm to Canadian rivers, one that boxes out New York energy producers.
The project, announced in 2010, is backed by scores of elected officials, including Gov. Kathy Hochul. Securing state and federal permits, in 2013 and 2014, CHPE generated thousands of comments to the Public Service Commission and a promise of a $117 million trust fund to support environmental restoration.
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The commission in April approved a 25-year state contract offering billions of dollars to Hydro-Quebec, a corporation tied to the Quebec government, for delivering renewable energy. The contract enables developers to move forward with construction this summer and potentially energize the transmission line by the end of 2025.
Opponents have raised concerns about the project’s impact on drinking water supplies from the Hudson River, fish that spawn in the Hudson estuary and market share of New York-based energy producers.
The project’s winding path underscores the grinding pace and tough choices of building new energy infrastructure as the state transitions from fossil fuels.
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The route
The line, a pair of six-inch high-voltage direct current cables with the capacity to transmit 1,250 megawatts, would connect to Hydro-Quebec’s sprawling transmission network outside Montreal, crossing the border via the Richelieu River and Lake Champlain.
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Leaving the lake in Putnam Station 97 miles south of the border, the cable would run underground along Washington County Route 3, past a farm bed and breakfast, past a 240-acre strip of state-owned forest preserve and down Lake Road for two miles before joining the right-of-way on State Route 22.
Most of the route is underwater or within railroad corridors. A 20-mile stretch in Washington County through rolling country east of Lake George ranks among the longest roadway sections.
The cable path heads south under Washington and Saratoga counties, through the Capital Region and into the Hudson Valley, entering the Hudson River just south of Catskill.
CHPE would leave the water to bypass Haverstraw Bay, critical fish spawning grounds, before reentering the river, crossing Randall’s Island Park underground and ending at a new converter station in Astoria – 340 miles from Quebec to Queens.
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A question of lake bottoms
As the transmission line stretches beneath Champlain, it would pass through the Adirondack Park, winding among the islands east of historic Valcour Island. It would skirt Split Rock Mountain Wild Forest.
At Split Rock, steep ridges dark with evergreens jut into the lake. A mix of hemlocks, pines and cedars toes the shoreline. An eagle in early spring rested in a nest perched atop a dead tree on the shore of a bay.
Adirondack advocacy groups at the project’s outset urged state officials to evaluate whether Article 14 “forever wild” protections extend to the bottom of Lake Champlain.
“We believe a new attorney general opinion should be sought … to lessen the chance that any citizen of the state file a lawsuit stopping the project as it may violate Article XIV of the State Constitution,” wrote Allison Buckley, then the Adirondack Council’s conservation director, in comments submitted in 2012.
But state officials have been satisfied with a 104-year-old attorney general opinion. It allowed the Fort William Henry Hotel to run a cable on the bottom of Lake George.
Public Service staff in a 2012 filing dismissed concerns that granting property rights under Lake Champlain would be unconstitutional. Whether the lake-bottom route “is part of the protected Forest Preserve is a legal question that has been answered repeatedly in the negative,” the PSC wrote.
The filing provided one citation in support: the 1918 opinion of Attorney General Merton E. Lewis. State officials cited the same opinion in response to questions from the Adirondack Explorer. Lewis opined that because the state owns the land under navigable waters “as sovereign” rather than “proprietor” they were not intended to be included in the forest preserve when the protections were adopted at the 1894 Constitutional Convention, at which Lewis served as a delegate.
“It seems absurd to speak of preserving the lands under the navigable waters of the forest preserve counties as ‘wild forest lands,’” Lewis wrote.
Two administrative law judges tasked with overseeing the project in 2012 noted the Adirondack Park Agency “supports the [proposed project] and agreed to the routing of the transmission line in Lake Champlain.”
The judges wrote that Lewis’ 1918 opinion found the power to convey state lands under navigable waters existed. They noted the limited environmental impacts documented in assessments of the project and determined “that placement of the cable underwater in Lake Champlain should not impair the lake’s ‘wild character’ nor interfere with its natural qualities or recreational uses.”
Department of Environmental Conservation lawyers in 2013 agreed, but added that “a thorough analysis of the New York Constitution’s Article 14 ‘forever wild’ clause is beyond the scope of this proceeding and is far too complex to be summarized in an overly broad manner.”
The DEC’s support for the project concluded: “This proceeding is not the appropriate venue to litigate constitutional claims premised on the ‘forever wild’ clause.”
In 1996, Attorney General Dennis Vacco, the last Republican to hold the office, took a different view about lakes and forest preserve. He asserted that Raquette and Moose lakes “are indisputably part of the forest preserve” and advised against granting permits for lake-bottom electrical lines to a handful of private homes.
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David Gibson, of Adirondack Wild: Friends of the Forest Preserve, said questions about where the forest preserve extends underwater have been “swept under the rug all of these years.”
Rob Rosborough, an attorney who has worked on Adirondack cases at the state Court of Appeals, said it was a common state to avoid analyzing Article 14 issues and noted officials could have pursued a constitutional amendment if necessary.
“What they try to do in every case is take the easy way out and hope no one challenges them,” Rosborough said.
Emissions-free electricity by 2040
In the 2019 Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act, New York committed to a set of ambitious electricity targets: 70% from renewable sources by 2030 and 100% by 2040.
In 2020, 27% of the state’s electric load was met by renewable sources, the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority reported. That year, electricity users in the state consumed around 150,000 gigawatt hours with a third of the use in New York City.
The state in 2020 produced around 130,000 GWh of electricity, 43% from gas and oil power plants, 29% from nuclear plants and 22% from hydroelectric sources, according to New York Independent System Operator (NYISO) data. Wind accounted for 3% of the state’s production, solar less than 1%. The state imported over 30,000 GWh, including around 8,500 GWh from Hydro-Quebec on a pair of existing transmission connections in the North Country.
The state’s electricity network has been called a “tale of two grids.” Already, 90% produced upstate is emissions free, but in New York City around 80% comes from fossil fuels. Transmission constraints limit the flow of upstate renewable sources to the city.
State officials cite a pipeline of approved large-scale renewable projects expected to deliver 54,000 GWh of electricity and lift the state’s use of renewable sources over 60% by 2030.
“New York’s renewable and environmental goals are driving profound changes on the electric system,” NYISO reported last year.
Drawing from the enormous energy portfolio of Hydro-Quebec’s 62 generating stations, the proposed CHPE line is projected to transmit around 10,000 GWh of energy to New York City each year, about 20% of the city’s estimated electricity needs in 2026.
“To be able to achieve these targets by 2030 and 2040, you need to get new transmission services into the city to bring the renewable energy in,” said Donald Jessome, CEO of Transmission Developers Inc., the company building CHPE. Existing dams and reservoirs qualify under the state’s renewable standards.
CHPE proponents say the project will help wean New York City off oil and gas generating facilities switched on during periods of high electricity demand, so-called “peaker plants.” The city’s 19 peaker plants produce a disproportionate share of emissions and pollution.
The plants are in low-income areas and contribute to health problems among people of color. Around 750,000 city residents live within one mile of a peaker plant, and 78% of them are either low income or people of color, according to a 2021 report by the Peak Coalition, a group that advocates for environmental justice. Reliance on the peaker plants has only increased since the state closed the Indian Point nuclear plant north of the city last year.
A big ‘green battery’
Quebec Premier François Legault has said he hopes the province will become the “green battery of North America.” The scale of Hydro-Quebec’s water resources underscores the potential role it can play in serving New York’s energy needs.
The hydro company in recent decades has aimed to expand its exports in American markets, supporting major transmission corridors in New York and New England. But those efforts have been stymied by resistance on multiple fronts.
The developer behind a proposed transmission line from Quebec through New Hampshire in 2019 dropped the plan amid resistance similar to what CHPE is facing. Maine voters in November rejected a transmission line already under construction to deliver Canadian hydropower to New England.
Still, energy economists and many environmentalists see the existing Canadian reservoirs as a key tool to balance wind and solar power sources in New York.
Wind energy is so variable that over some stretches the state’s combined wind fleet produces 5% or less of its overall capacity. Solar as of 2020 represented less than 1% of electricity produced in New York. Hydro-Quebec claims it will deliver electricity at 95% of its capacity.
“The current decision in front of New York is a slam dunk to take existing assets and utilize them better,” MIT energy economist John Parsons said.
Parsons and his colleagues at the Center for Energy and Environmental Policy Research in a 2020 paper described how Quebec’s hydro resources can help New York balance energy consumption, moving toward a two-way trade of electricity between the state and the province.
When solar and wind generators are overproducing in New York, they can send excess energy to Canada, allowing Quebec to maintain its reservoirs. When New York producers are falling short of demand, the hydropower can flow into the state, cementing systemwide efficiencies in both countries. If New York relied entirely on in-state wind and solar, Parsons said, it would have to overbuild capacity to accommodate fluctuations in production.
Detractors argue Hydro-Quebec’s battery is not so green.
When forests and wetlands are flooded to create a new reservoir, they release a wave of greenhouse gas emissions that initially rival the emissions produced by gas-burning power plants, according to a 2011 study of a Hydro-Quebec reservoir. Those emissions slow over time and across the lifespan of a reservoir average out to roughly the emissions produced by wind and solar installations, according to a 2020 study that estimated the lifecycle emissions of Hydro-Quebec reservoirs.
The reservoirs also activate mercury in the soil, setting off a pulse of dangerous methylmercury that accumulates up the food chain. People who rely on fish from areas flooded by dams are at increased risk of methylmercury absorption, which has been shown to harm fetal development.
Dams wreak massive ecological and social changes across the planet.
Studies estimate that between 40 to 80 million people worldwide have been displaced by dam construction in the past century, and nearly 500 million people have been affected by changes to fisheries and river flows. An estimated 3,700 major dams are planned or under construction across the globe.
Annie Wilson, an activist with the North American Megadam Resistance Alliance, said dams cause wide-reaching environmental and social harm. “We have to restore our ecosystems as much as possible, and streams, rivers, those are the arteries of our Mother Earth,” Wilson said. “These dams are not allowed to be built in the United States anymore.”
She cited a Johnny Cash and Peter La Farge song that tells the story of the Kinzua Dam, which flooded Seneca Reservation lands in 1965 and left behind a reservoir stretching north across the New York state line. “The earth is mother to the Senecas, they’re trampling sacred ground,” Cash sang.
Under the lake
State and federal agencies have found minimal environmental impacts associated with the CHPE project, but ecologists who focus on Lake Champlain said construction could alter fish habitats and food webs. Developers established the $117 environmental trust fund to support monitoring and restoration projects in Lake Champlain and the Hudson, Harlem and East rivers.
A governance committee composed of representatives from CHPE, state agencies and environmental and community groups will direct the fund.
Ellen Marsden, of the University of Vermont Wildlife & Fisheries Biology Program, said she anticipates cable installation will affect Champlain’s shallow southern section most.
Marsden said sediment disturbed by water jetting and dredging will change fish habitat. Some fish use the natural substrate for burrowing while others want rocky or sandy areas for spawning and foraging. As suspended sediment resettles, it will bury and alter these habitats, causing problems for the fish that breed and feed there. The long-term effect of degraded spawning areas could ripple through subsequent generations.
Marsden is also concerned about silt stirred up by turbulence. It can damage fish gills and insects in their larval stages. Eggs in nests could be suffocated by sediment. Cloudy water could prevent sunlight from reaching aquatic vegetation, limiting photosynthesis. Threats to food sources at the primary trophic level could trigger impacts throughout the food web.
The trust fund would be used in Lake Champlain for fish population surveys, fish habitat assessments, habitat restoration and aquatic invasive species management. Marsden emphasized the importance of collecting data before construction.
Once pre-construction conditions are known, the project’s environmental impact can be measured. Restoration responses could range from clearing altered habitat of sediment by controlled blasts of water or constructing new habitat nearby–such as building a reef from loose rocks. Another management response could be to reduce fishing in those areas to enable ecosystem recovery.
Developers contracted with the Lake Champlain Maritime Museum to plot a route underwater that avoided shipwrecks and other cultural resources in the lake.
“There’s a lot down there,” said Chris Sabick, director of archeology and research at the museum. “We see our role in these types of projects as a continuation of our efforts to help preserve these resources.”
Developers also negotiated more than a dozen agreements along the proposed route, seeking reduced tax payments over the next 30 years, while guaranteeing payments to local governments and school districts.
In Clinton, Essex and Washington counties, developers estimated a combined construction cost of nearly $700 million, over $4 billion for the entire project. Such agreements with these three counties outline projected tax payments of $470 million over the next three decades, including nearly $270 million in Washington County. The counties agreed to exempt developers of over $40 million in mortgage and sale taxes.
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For or against
When Lani and Karl Ohly moved from the Ohio River Valley, they looked for clear skies, clean air and a lack of industrial development.
They found a new home on over 400 acres in Putnam Station perched above the southern narrows of Lake Champlain. The farm site is where they run a bed and breakfast, the Inn on Lake Champlain.
“The Adirondacks is a more and more relevant model in terms of protecting the benefits for individuals who live here,” Karl said. “You experience one side of the [industrialization] coin, and you realize how valuable the protections are.”
They oppose CHPE, which would go by their property. The couple said they think the plan could be a violation of deed restrictions that require the road right-of-way be used only “for the purpose of a road,” arguing the transmission line does nothing to benefit the residents of Putnam.
They are also concerned about precedent. “How many lines will be allowed to come through the Adirondack Park?” Lani asked. “The Adirondack Park has not been a place where private corporations can just crisscross the park at any price.”
CHPE faces opposition further down the line.
The Hudson Riverkeeper, a nonprofit focused on protecting the river, agreed to a 2012 settlement, but in the past year has sought to block the project, highlighting concerns about Hudson River fisheries, drinking supplies and the emissions associated with hydropower. The Sierra Club opposes CHPE for similar reasons.
“We think putting in more transmission from upstate to downstate is a good thing. The thing we really disagree about is Canadian hydro,” Riverkeeper attorney Richard Webster said.
Gavin Donohue, president of the Independent Power Producers of New York, said utility ratepayers will incur cost increases to pay for the renewable credits. The state should be encouraging projects by state generators, he said.
“When we have abundant renewable projects proposed within New York’s borders, why are we giving money to a Canadian utility to accomplish our goals?” Donohue asked.
Opponents contend that the state can do more to bolster efficiency, expand rooftop solar and improve transmission to in-state projects.
Some environmental groups, including the Nature Conservancy and the New York League of Conservation Voters, support CHPE and emphasize moving to emissions-free electricity as soon as possible. So do activists focused on the pollution from New York City’s oil and gas plants. Business groups, including the North Country and Adirondack chambers of commerce, support the project, and major unions hail the jobs it promises.
Ryan Calder, a professor of environmental health and policy at Virginia Tech, studied and documented the surge of methylmercury caused by new reservoirs in Labrador. His research is often cited by CHPE detractors as evidence of widespread methylmercury poisoning across Canadian reservoirs. “I know that people say that, l wish they wouldn’t,” Calder said.
The impacts of renewable projects should be examined and mitigated, Calder said, but a transition to new energy sources will require difficult tradeoffs. Sometimes a less-than-ideal project is better than continuing the use of more harmful energy sources, he said.
“I agree it’s important to consider environmental impacts pretty broadly, but you have to consider them in the context of alternatives,” Calder said.
Surveyors have started to chalk out marks in front of the Inn on Lake Champlain. The road bends at the old Victorian house and passes a large barn built in 1900. Karl Ohly is swapping old beams with hand-milled replacements. If CHPE becomes a reality, for 50 years or more electrons generated by dams 1,000 miles north will zip underground past the old barn to help turn on lights, charge cars and power the world’s financial system in a city 250 miles south.
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10,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity each year is 1 with 13 zeros Watts
10,000,000,000,000 Watts / 8760 hours per year = 1,141,552,511 Watts per hour =
1,141 Mega Watts per hour, the industry standard for measuring electrical power.
The line from Châteauguay, Quebec to Marcy NY carries 3,000 Mega Watts
per hour, this line is owned by the New York Power Authority.
The peak load in NY is about 33,000 Mega Watts, the NY limit of production
and import is about 36,000.
Thus, in the summer on a hot sticky August week when NYC air-conditioning
is roaring the potential for a blackout is at its peak. The loss of generation
or line can cause events to happen that cannot be stopped. That is how the
last blackout occurred.
The average cost of a Mega Watt is as low as $2 at Niagara but can spike up
to $50 for an area like NYC at peak demand.
On average $10 is a safe number to use, 8760 hours per year x $10 x 1000MW
(The 1,141MW theoretical) will yield about $88 million dollars in revenue.
$4,000,000,000 / $88,000,000 = 45 years with no interest costs calculated in
to pay off the capital expense.
The only way to make this work is to drastically increase the cost to consumer.
“The only way to make this work is to drastically increase the cost to consumer.”
This was a given. And the actual “consumers” demanding the cable won’t be the only ones paying for it.
Shifting away from fossil fuel will indeed be expensive. Perhaps more important is actual REDUCTION in power usage. Cheap electricity over the decades has allowed users to become very wasteful. 50 years ago, a 60 amp service panel in a typical house was fairly common. Now, 200 amp is the norm. Many people do not even know how much energy each of their devices use.
And where is the push for more efficient appliances?? This push is quite anemic. Many households that are in communities with artificially inexpensive power ($0.03 – 0.06 kW/h!!) use the cheapest and least efficient methods of baseboard heating. Heated pools, steam showers, etc., would be very expensive outside of those isolated pockets of extremely low energy costs. Political borders should not control energy costs when others are forced to pay the difference! To be fair, we should ALL be under the same constraints of energy use and conservation.
Modern heat pump options – both geothermal and atmospheric – need to be refined and tuned to northern climates. While it may still be necessary for secondary auxiliary heat for these cold locations, at least the total energy use will be moderated and reduced over a calendar year – especially with the increase in A/C use over the warmer, more humid summers.
If we don’t get hold of our consumption, should we be relying on foreign, environmentally questionable hydro power – that can be shut off with a simple cyber attack? If NYC continues its wasteful use, what will happen if this power source is suddenly switched off for any reason? We need to balance our quest for cheap energy with thoughtful and efficient energy USE. This necessary part of the solution is not getting enough press.
How benign is this cable?
https://www.adirondackexplorer.org/stories/stray-voltage-closes-tioga-point-campground
The environmental impact statement completely ignores the large sludge beds containing methyl mercury that are many feet deep where the lake shallows near Fort Ticonderoga at the exit from the Ticonderoga Creek, now renamed with the pompous name Lachute. These originated from the old International Paper mill that was located right in the center of the village. The NY Attorney General sued IP in the late 60s, early 70s over the massive mercury pollution in the creek and above ground sludge beds but nothing was done about the lake pollution. The solution then was to cover up the above ground sludge beds with fill, and donate the land to the town. The town utilized the land to build a Little League park and girl’s softball field on top. This history can all be found with a simple web search, and don’t forget to search for Lake Champlain mercury sludge beds. I don’t know how the consulting firms and NY agencies involved in approving this power project could have ignored the mercury beds in researching the environmental and health impacts. If the mercury is stirred up, there are several public water systems on both sides of the Lake plus private farms that use Lake Champlain for drinking water. The public cost to remedy mercury in the drinking water could be massive. And there is the fishing tournament industry that brings in millions. Why has no one thought of these problems? Various NY and Vt agencies already have had long term warnings about mercury in Lake Champlain fish. The warnings are readily available in a Google search. The official solution, I fear, will be to emerge even further north above ground and cause further disruption of our beautiful Adirondack landscape.
This project was seized by former Gov. Cuomo as a quick fix to bringng green energy into NY. In his last state of the state speech he promoted this instead of promoting solar and wind that cost more and had to be privately funded by homeowners and land owners. tt made up 80% of his goal of green energy. The first route for this project was through the center part of the state, overland with transmission lines through hundreds of miles of private propery. The landowners there fought it off for years and the project was switched to Lake Champlain. You can find the history of the fight in central NY in the full report at NYSERDA.
The fact that Blackstone is financing this high-priced toll road is an example of the state capture by corporations at the expense of the public.
New York Power Authority is the largest state owned generation and transmission company in the US. It built the Niagara and St. Lawrence hydro plants, Gilboa pump-storage and 1400 miles of high voltage transmission. Obviously NYPA has the technical and managerial expertise for such a project. If NYPA built the line, it certainly would be cheaper for the public.
State government has sold out the public interest to the highest bidder… and to their campaign contributors. It does this under the guise of carbon emissions. The goal is to enrich their cronies.
I agree that conservation provides the best solution. The cheapest KWH is the one you don’t burn.
“And where is the push for more efficient appliances??” My quote from above.
Being as old as I am, I have been witness to the generational ebb and flow of automobile size and efficiency. Every energy “scare” prompted smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles and fuel usage typically declined – only to rebound in the extreme a decade later. The last time was around the turn of this century – even with the additional knowledge of CO2 emissions. Vehicles trimmed their sheet metal, their weight, and their consumption. But since then, who has been behind the explosion in the AWD, SUV, and light truck market in the US? Not only the market, but the size and weight of the vehicles as well. This was not a world-wide phenomenon. This was relaxing US government fuel standards for the auto industry (lobbied for by Big Oil and signed by their appointed politicians) combined with stupid consumer preference. Anyone tried to buy a new, fuel-efficient sedan lately? US-built sedans are essentially extinct.
What does this have to do with electrical energy? Energy is energy. Either type of energy is now a commodity, controlled by large corporations that write their own rules, own the politicians, and are too big to fail.
The anemic push to improve the efficiency of a refrigerator for instance is immediately countered with – you guessed it – BIGGER REFRIGERATORS!! My friend recently bough a “modern” fridge that is about the same size as my dorm room in college. Sure, it may have a “good”(?) Energy Star rating, but that doesn’t make it Energy Smart if it still uses the same or even more energy than the previous model heading for the landfill (don’t get me started on “recycling”…). If the US could only get a handle on its extreme energy WASTE, we would go a long way toward solving many of our problems.
thanks alot of information
Refrigerator’s…”Today’s monster 25 cubic foot Energy Star side-by-side refrigerator only uses around 60 kWh of electricity per month. In comparison, a 1996 15 cubic foot frost-free refrigerator consumed almost three times that amount of power at 150 kWh per month.”
Indeed, this IS a selling point for some of those “monsters”! BIGGER IS BETTER – just like cars. But is a 25 cf fridge using a lower 60 kWh necessary if a 15 or 20 cf unit using even less energy (over its measly 10 year life) would do? And the energy to build a new/larger fridge in China, ship it to the US, and to “recycle” parts of the old one (hopefully) needs to be considered. What can’t be recycled – most plastics – goes to a landfill – somewhere. Of course, now the fridge won’t match the rest of the appliances, so they need to be “upgraded” as well. Cue China again. It is all part of driving the disposable world economy, which wastes energy and creates emissions overseas where they are manufactured and on our shores where with any materials land-filled here. Don’t drink the Kool-ade. It isn’t all about Energy Star ratings. We need to think more responsibly. We all need to purchase appliances occasionally – just don’t buy “more” than you need.
No Kool Aid here. I was just correcting the rationale for concluding “My friend recently bough a “modern” fridge that is about the same size as my dorm room in college. Sure, it may have a “good”(?) Energy Star rating, but that doesn’t make it Energy Smart if it still uses the same or even more energy than the previous model heading for the landfill (don’t get me started on “recycling”…).” Indeed, from a life cycle energy perspective, in most instances it is best to use an appliance until it dies, then purchase the most energy efficient, electric appliance available.
What a joke. Don’t allow any energy projects to be built within NYS, then go outside the country to purchase energy and then construct a transmission line to blue NYC. The height of green hypocrisy.